Don: I'll tell you a story about how my family came to Wyoming. So it would have been the second half of the 1800s my great grandfather was a boy in England. His name was William Julian. His mother wanted badly to come to the United States, but her husband did not want to come to the United States. And so, at least at that point, she sent my great grandfather, William and one of his brothers, over to the United States. And he was only 12 at the time. I think his brother was maybe a little older than he, and she sent him with some missionaries and thinking that if she could get some of the kids in the states that her husband would change his mind. Which he ultimately did.So my great grandfather came to the United States when he was 12 years old. He located in Salt Lake City and started herding sheep as a boy for some local sheep ranchers and worked his way into Southwestern Wyoming, where he homesteaded and created his own sheep outfit. And my children, and my brother and sister's children, and actually my grandchildren now, and my brother's grandchildren will be the seventh generation on the ranch. So, if you want to go to another country and your husband doesn't want to, send a couple kids, and then you can talk him into it.

Nancy: So that's a great story. Thank you. What is being so you're from a multi generation Wyoming, I family, right? What does it mean to you to be from Wyoming or a Wyomingite? 

Don: Well, I think it's the greatest state to live in in the United States. Right now, especially. And, like I said, I'm 58, and I of course grew up in Kemmerer, southwestern Wyoming. But  I left the fold a little bit and didn't stay—or I left the flock, I should say— and broke away from the sheep outfit. I've lived in Riverton and in Laramie and in Sheridan, and I love all parts of Wyoming, there's not a bad part, in my opinion. And I think it's a great place to raise kids. I think the education system is awesome. I spent my professional career in the education system, and I think it's, it's just top notch. So I love everything about Wyoming. 

Nancy: That's pretty good testimony right there. Thank you so much for sharing your family story and the story of how you became the fifth generation. Yes toward the seventh. 

Don: So it was yes, I was fifth, and we've got, we've got little ones that will be the seventh. 

Note: The transcript above has been condensed from its original audio recording to improve the flow and readability of the story.